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Monday, 03 October 2011


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Barbara Stratton

Very well said JC.

On Thursday 9/29/11 CUEE called a special meeting of their Education Task Force at the City Hall Annex. Reading on and between the lines of the VDT article it appears the new, more agressive tactic is to call into question the conduct and accountability for goverance of education of the Valdosta City Board of Education. Under the leadership of Steve Prigohzy they seem to be heading toward usurping this goverance from the elected school boards to another entity they can control. This is hauntingly familiar if you read an article titled Tennessee Waltz from the Education Week Teacher.


Leadership for the post consolidation planning was forcibly taken from the county superintendent and given to the Public Education Foundation of Chattanooga, TN, which was headed by CUEE's own Steven H. Prigohzy. His specialty seems to be powering school consolidations and overseeing the resulting planning which does little to improve the academic or financial conditions of the public schools (actually these get worse). It does however provide the perfect climate for pulling grant monies to establish the magnet schools he also specializes in.


From this profile you can also see that he headed the International School of Islamabad, Pakistan. No wonder he advocated going after $2.5 million grant monies from the George Soros supported, Annenberg Foundation for the Chattanooga/Hamilton Co. planning. (Tennessee Waltz articla)

I personally would be willing to give my life to save my grandchild from being exposed to any curriculim supported by the Annenberg Foundation since Walter H. Annenberg was a known supporter of anti-solidarity for America and also terrorism against capitalism.

I sent my two children to private school for two years. When it became apparant that the constant criticism of the public school environments from their private school was causing them to feel superior to those students, they were returned to public schools. Although my children and grandchildren are my favorite students. I am also concerned and responsible for all students regardless of race or ethnicity (except they should be legal residents and not illegal trespassers). I will never support the idea of magnet schools that select (usually by lottery) a few students that are petted and groomed to excell while the majority of students fall through the post consolidation cracks. This is not equality or justice for all. It does however, create avenues for grabbing grant monies that benefit some local developers at the expense of the majority of all the children and the community.

Please attend the Thursday 10/06/11 meeting of the Education Task Force in the City Hall Annex. You will probably not be allowed to speak or ask questions, but at least you will know what is going on. Also, please note you do not have to sign any list even though they will try to make you. They use the list to claim agreement concensus since no disagreement is allowed.

Barbara Stratton

If you go to the Education Week Teacher website it will say the Tennesse Waltz article is only available to registered guests, but registration is free.

Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange

The Tennessee Waltz article seems to be a slightly later and slightly revised version of the article I referenced in http://lake.typepad.com/on-the-lake-front/2011/09/steve-prigohzy-guru-of-chattanooga-hamilton-co-school-consolidation.html as quoted recently by Smart Memphis.
Do you have any evidence for your Soros allegations? If not, you're distracting from your main points.

Barbara Stratton

Here's one reference for the Annenberg/Soros connection. I don't post anything that can be proven libelous. You know I hate posting references for everything because I believe the readers can do time themselves researching if they think it is wrong. They will find numerous references to the Sorros/Ayers/Annenberg/Obama connections. Providing reference for everything is enablement and I hate enablement.


Barbara Stratton

“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”

Adolph Hitler

Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange

Um, Barbara, someone else saying the same thing you are with no source is not a reference; it's just a rumor.
On the one hand, comments here are obviously just the opinions of their authors and not of LAKE, and even blog posts on the LAKE blog are the opinions of their authors except in the very rare cases where they say "for LAKE" at the bottom.
On the other hand, enabling transparency is what the LAKE blog is about, and repeating rumors doesn't do that. Citing reliable sources does help with transparency.
For those who are not familiar with reliability of sources, here's one dimension of it, regarding primary and secondary sources: http://library.ucsc.edu/help/howto/distinguish-between-primary-and-secondary-sources
Rumors are neither; they're just rumors.

Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange

Some readers may not be familiar with Godwin's Law:
Now that's a Wikipedia article, and thus not a primary source. However, it cites many primary sources, including at least three written by Mike Godwin, the author of Godwin's Law, the earliest of which says:
"Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies: As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
You don't have to know what USENET is to understand the applicability of that Law to any online discussion. (If you do want to know about USENET, I wrote a book I can lend you.)
I can add another primary source. I have known Mike Godwin for many years; I was involved in USENET and remember when he formulated his Law; I assisted EFF at the same time he was working for EFF; and I have discussed Godwin's Law directly with him.
I can also attest to the validity of this part of the Wikipedia writeup:
"There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[3] than others.[1] For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.[7]"

Karen Noll

After reading the Ed Weekly article, I was struck by a very strong dejavu feeling. I checked the date twice and only to realize ( twice) that this consolidation went on more than 15 years ago.
The city schools were in bad shape financially and educationally in Chatnooga city. That is the major difference with our situation here. As much as some want you to believe that Valdosta city schools are not doing well, there are many that can point to the school improvement plan and it being recognized as one of the best in the state, or other notable achievements that differ front the view of VCS propagated by the folks on CUEE.
Other than that we are looking at the same issues; racial segregation, neighborhood schools, professional development monies in the different district, curriculum changes, busing to attain integration requirements, and the concerns about redistricting and moving kids to other schools.
Again this was 15 years ago, yet we are now faced with the same issues. At the time of the article consolidation had passed (19k to 21k). Teachers and parents Interviewed expressed concern about the poor kids of the city not getting a fair shake because the county (largely white) schools had little connection to the issues of the city kids. We would be faced with that just on a smaller scale.
The other strange likeness to this 15 year old consolidation is that Steve Prigozhy seems to have some very vague notions of school reform today that he did back then. These notions have been found to be less than successful in the ensuing 15 years.
Distancing himself from his failures does not make him a success at anything but manipulation of facts. The education of my children is not going to be reformed by a man that spins the truth and panders to the wealthy.
Thank you for sharing the Edweekly article.
Karen Noll

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